Approved [APPEAL APPROVED] Project Application: Dreadfort by Banty & SMP

[SMP]

here's what i think of your resignation letter

 

[Margaery_Tyrell]

 

[SMP]

The time has come to pass the torch. I've abandoned my child. I've abandoned my boy.

 

[CashBanks]

LET THE RULING CLASSES TREMBLE AT A COMMUNIST REVOLUTION. THE PROLETARIANS HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT THEIR CHAINS. THEY HAVE A WORLD TO WIN. WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!

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I'm humbly seeking to foster the Dreadfort project, completing the glorious work of SMP and BantyRooster.


(green/yellow stripey part is a mix of forest patches and fields, preserving the best uninterrupted views of the castle)

Crux of the plan is to finish what SMP and Banty started. No plans to change the Dreadfort, might just swap in some of the newer blocks. Will finish the rest of the holdfasts and the town as they've largely been plotted.

Planning to start with Dreadfort Town and open up other holdfasts and points of interests as minis for application.

Overview:
Dreadfort: minor cosmetic updates with new blocks
Ramsays Mill: Minor cosmetic updates with new blocks, Marg is free to pitch changes to layout/plotting
DF Ringfort: Minor cosmetic updates, finish terra
DF Holdfast 2: Minor cosmetic updates

Dreadfort Town: finish current build with minor cosmetic updates. Town is mostly complete, might just need a few more houses, interiors added and crops/pastures detailed.

Mini-apps available:
DF Holdfast 1: finish current build
Ruins: start and finish
Gloomdale: Redo (for style consistency)
Peddler's Passage: Redo (for style consistency)

Terra will be emulating the style established around the Dreadfort:

 

[Jakethesnake8_8]

Hiya Cash,

I’d like to request a hand in terra, given I am working on the Lonely Hills and populating that area, it’s important that we work together to blend the areas.

Feel free to contact me on discord and we can discuss! Excited to see DF get some love!

 

[Ric]

Hey Cash!

So glad to see you applying for this I'm sure you'll do an amazing work once approved, as always. It'll also be great to see this beautiful project completed.

I like your plans and how much you're respecting what's already in place. But I would like to ask one question before giving my approval: can you show how you plan to make the transition between towards the snowed areas? A simple example of how you plan to do it would be enough for me.
I think it's important since it'll have to be applied more or less similary throughtout the transition area in the North. Jake and Scub made a nice transition work in Frost, but not in a forested area, hence my request.

Also, going back in this thread there're textures you made for the skins of the flayed. Not sure if you have any more work to put into them or if you plan to do so, but would be nice to have them added

 

[CashBanks]

Thanks Ric!
Yes, despite my best efforts I can't seem to escape snow layers.

I don't particularly mind the default worldpainter snow transition that's used across most of the map.

I think the noisier transition is a little more smooth/natural than the larger perlin shapes at Frost (examples below)


We could potentially improve the transition by adding in some muddy snow/snowy thatch blocks.
Default:


Option 1: Replace some dirt/grass/pine needles next to snow with muddy snow/snowy thatch


Option 2: More muddy snow/snowy thatch swapped in


If I aimed to replicate the default transition style, then the muddy snow/snowy thatch could be added at any time down the track. Could even be done all at once with scripts across the north when we settled on a consistent style we were happy with.

I'm just chatting with Jake about where the west/north west snow line will be placed. We were discussing moving it further north, around this line to align with the topography.

 

[AerioOndos]

The best looking result you'll get is clearing the area and redoing it. But ofc that's a huge time sink.

What could be done also is to create snowless rings around the trunks of trees, snow shadows so to speak.

Option 2 is probably the better looking option imo.
regardless of what you do on slopes the snow is going to look strange without some layering going on. Even if it's just some bushy grass under snow with a layer on top to give some bulge to the structure.

 

[Ric]

Regarding doing it all at once with scripts, I think it should be fine. Would be even better, perhaps, for consistency. I do agree with Aeks that option 2 is the best looking one. I also agree on moving the transition further north, makes sense... and since a chunk of it would be removed maybe you could do the option 2 so it's an example for the future, already on production - but I think that can be discussed further down the road.

Nonetheless, I'm happy with your plans. You have my approval

 

[Margaery_Tyrell]

Maybe use patches of muddy snow sans snow layers for snow thats gone slushy and gross

 

[lemonbear]

Happy to also approve! After seeing your work with the Wall castles, I'm confident you'll be able to fully bring the Dreadfort to life.

In terms of the snow transition, I agree with moving the transition further north. For the style, Option 2 is better than leaving the vanilla now as-is, but I wonder if there could be some kind of compromise with the perlin style because I think there are ways and places that it works very well. Perhaps by using Aeks's suggestion of snow shadows around trees and/or using chunkier/perlin bits more selectively rather than making it a whole pattern? Or being more intentional with snow placement at points of interest within the forest.